USA PROPHECY ANALYSIS
By Pastor Johann Melchizedek Peter
SUNDAY CHURCH SERVICE – 13 NOVEMBER 2016 (PM)
This afternoon we are going to talk about the USA prophecy − it’s not a wrong prophecy; it was misinterpreted in timing. So the prophecy will still take place. Then there are some aspects, as I looked back and I saw a bit more clearly, that we can talk about. After that, we will open for questions and answers.
This is a worldwide session. In fact, all our sermons are delivered worldwide. I follow a certain policy: anything that is delivered worldwide and from the pulpit has to also be addressed worldwide. If something is delivered to only 10 people, then to the 10 people it will be addressed. That’s one of my leadership principles (out of 17 principles) by which I live.
The one good thing is: this is a teaching church. So whether there are misinterpretations or mistakes made, whether there are successes or failures, whether we are in a valley or on the mountain top rejoicing, we are accountable and responsible. There is no other place or ministry − I can assure you because I can list a whole group of people internationally (with some famous names), all the way from India to the USA, all over the world, and even in my home country (Australia), where prophecies have been made wrongly and none of them has been willing to discuss or analyse. So this is the privilege that we do and have. This is the type of leadership that we have . We will always be transparent and open, and we will discuss and analyse all things, so that we can go forward from there. So let’s lay some foundations.
This is the second service. In the first service I taught on the area of spiritual revelation and interpretation, and I touched on some points that I would like to bring forward also to this service. Then I’ll go straight into the USA prophecy analysis. You can ask about other prophecies too.
First, how and when this kind of mistakes can be made. The easiest mistake to make in the reception, interpretation and application of a prophecy is the timing. Timing is one of the most difficult things to discern in a prophecy (when you receive a prophecy from God). Yet in our modern world, everybody is concerned about the timing. For example, you can prophesy the price of gold going up. People know it’s going to go up and down. How does it help people if they don’t know when, right? You can prophesy about prosperity and recession, but nobody can benefit or act on it unless they know the “when”. Our modern world is concerned with the “when”.
We do not need prophecies; we need signs and wonders which are important to us. And not just signs and wonders, but signs and wonders that bring healing and wholeness to people. Also, the preaching of the gospel which is more important to us. We have never needed a prophecy to validate anything. Prophecies have been given not with the motive of validation. We always have the solid teaching of the Word and the proof of my 40 years of ministry of the Word. That’s our validation.
As we look at the interpretation of prophecy and its application, we look first at some scriptures that we touched on this morning. Look at the difference between the spiritual time and the physical time. But in terms of that, some of the background on what we touched on this morning, for example, in Acts 10 when Peter saw the vision of the unclean animals coming down three times. You see, hindsight is easier than foresight. We know from Acts 10 that it refers to the three Gentiles coming to Peter, sent by Cornelius to ask Peter to go and preach the gospel to him so that he can be saved. We know the interpretation.
But inside the vision (in Acts 10), the basket contains the unclean animals which Jews do not eat. Of course, to us Gentiles, when we see the whole basket, we say: “Wow, hotpot, good!” Lobsters, prawns, crabs, all these unclean things for us, fantastic! But to Peter, it was unclean. Then the voice said: “Kill and eat.” Now, definitely that cannot be literal interpretation.
So again, I show that even the vocabularies of a vision: “Kill and eat” cannot be interpreted literally because when Peter saw the three Gentile men: three baskets, three Gentiles, three baskets, three Gentiles, “Kill and eat”, “Kill and eat”!Obviously he could not. That’s not what God was trying to say. Instead, it had to be re-interpreted as “Go with them, preach and save.” So the “kill and eat” was totally changed.
I want to show some parts in the Bible, where the chronological time in the earth plane is different from the spiritual time in the spiritual dimension. Let’s look at Genesis 15:13 − (God told Abraham) “Know certainly that your descendants will be strangers in a land that is not theirs, and will serve them, and they will afflict them four hundred years.” See, the words “four hundred years”? Later, it says in verse 16: “in the fourth generation”. So that’s a prophetic word uttered by God.
Now, Exodus 12:40 − “Now the sojourn of the children of Israel who lived in Egypt was four hundred and thirty years.” Now, where did the extra 30 years come from? How did it happen?
One of the things that I showed this morning is that, in the Bible, in the measurement of the laver during Solomon’s time, they measured Pi as 3. We know Pi as 3.142 onwards. This is because the Bible sort of summarises something. Of course, we also don’t know what else was spoken. But four hundred years plus another thirty years − thirty years for humans is a lifetime.
Thirty extra years − where did that come from?
Prophecies are given in part. Then as you are about to go in, you know, when at the beginning of the 400 years − 400 years, 430 years − no difference at the beginning. But when you are at the ending, you’d have already experienced 400 years.
Towards the end of the time when the Israelities were about to come out of Egypt, it was the worst time − people were dying, babies were being killed by Pharaoh, any child under two was being killed, new babies born were being killed − they were suffering. They went in happily but towards the end they were suffering under the oppression of Pharaoh. Thirty extra years − it’s a whole generation; people might not be alive. In 30 years, more people would have died.
So when you are inside it, it becomes more important. When you are outside before entering in − 400 or 430 years − nothing much. And then from historical perspective, we might look back now − 400 or 430 years − nothing much. If you were one of those in Egypt suffering, you would say, “Hey, don’t say it doesn’t matter much, we will die here.” So it was important to them. Because for another 30 years, their fathers might not survive, their uncles might be gone, their children might be taken. So to them, it was life and death. From our perspective, it’s so far back in history. So remember, don’t look at it lightly. An extra 30 years is significant.
So I’m asking the question: Why? Why was there a delay? As I said, sometimes a prophetic word can be delayed.
And let me add this fact: Remember the prophet Jonah? He was told to go to Nineveh to tell them. From the time he stepped in, they had 40 days. So the time was from counting the time he stepped in. Remember his prophecy? At first, he didn’t want to prophesy because he didn’t like the Ninevites. He preferred that all the Assyrian people be killed. Let the judgment of God come upon them. He didn’t want to deliver them from God’s judgment because he was afraid that if he preached and they repented, God might change and consider that. So he tried to run away. As you know, he was thrown overboard, a big fish swallowed him and vomited him onto dry land. He then went back to Nineveh to prophesy. He went up and down the city of Nineveh (the capital of Assyria) and said, “In 40 days everything will be destroyed.” And surprise, surprise, everyone repented (from the king to the people on the street). The king commanded a fast, so everyone fasted. And God delayed the judgment. Guess who was unhappy? Jonah. He was sitting there waiting for the judgment and the judgment never came. Then God tried to teach him something. God created a plant that shaded him and then the plant died and he was also upset. God was trying to show him: “These people didn’t know their left hand from their right hand. If I show mercy and delay, who are you?” But what was the prophetic word? “In 40 days everything will be destroyed.” So the prophetic word was changed by people’s response. Did Jonah know it was changed?
Now, here’s the part we consider: Why couldn’t we see something?
Why didn’t Jonah see something? Because he was emotionally attached to the fact that God was going to destroy them. Hallelujah for him! He wanted God to destroy them. Obviously, if you read the book of Jonah, he wanted God to destroy them. He was delighted that God was going to destroy them. He was delighted that finally the judgment was coming on the Assyrians. You know, when you read the history of the Assyrians, when they fought with other people, the nation of Israel included, and they were very cruel to their enemies. Do you know that one of the things they practiced was to skin a person alive? Horrible things, which the Israelites might have seen and witnessed. So Jonah was delighted and he was emotionally invested in his original prophecy that it must come to pass. That was a blind spot.
You see, whenever we become emotionally invested, we are no longer objective. When you are no longer objective, God cannot talk to you about something different, which is the purpose of dreams. Sometimes God cannot talk to you because you are emotionally invested. God has to wait till you are knocked out, then show you a dream to try to tell you something else. Which is why we always tell people: In prophecies that people have emotions invested in, like prophecies on soulmate, or prophecies on things, even on a job or anything, any move where you are emotionally invested, you need somebody from outside to hear for you. You need the counsel of multitude. You need people from outside to hear for you. You can trust, to a certain extent, your own receiving provided you know how to remain objective, but you cannot fully trust. You’ll have to wait till somebody from outside hears for you, because your own emotion is your blind spot.
Jonah was emotionally invested. And I’d say that, at a certain point, we were emotionally invested in Martin O’Malley becoming the President. Same with Aruel. I’ll talk about some of the things that Aruel saw when I analysed the details after that.
So when the prophecy changed, Jonah realised it at the end: “Okay, God, You have mercy.” And then the book of Jonah was left hanging. It was left open-ended to show that God has the power through His mercy to do and change anything.
If we are not emotionally invested in the original, we might see the changes that are coming.
In the end, the judgment on Nineveh was actually delayed. It was postponed and God gave them a reprieve. You know when the full judgment came? During the time of Nahum the prophet… Nahum the prophet was raised by God much later and he pronounced the judgment that came to pass on Nineveh (the capital of Assyria).
Let’s turn to 1 Kings 21 − Naboth didn’t want to let go of his vineyard. In the end, he was stoned by false witnesses and died. In verse 16, Ahab was there to take possession. In verse 17, the word of the Lord came to Elijah, saying, “Go and speak this prophecy to Ahab.” So Elijah said (verse 19): “… ‘Thus says the LORD: ‘Have you murdered and also taken possession?’ … ‘Thus says the LORD: ‘In the place where dogs licked the blood of Naboth, dogs shall lick your blood, even yours.’” And then he spoke about all the evil that was going to happen to him (verse 22): “I will make your house like the house of Jeroboam the son of Nebat, and like the house of Baasha the son of Ahijah, because of the provocation with which you have provoked Me to anger…” And it says in verses 25-26: “But there was no one like Ahab who sold himself to do wickedness in the sight of the LORD, because Jezebel his wife stirred him up. And he behaved very abominably in following idols…” Then a strange thing happened, something that even Elijah didn’t expect. Ahab fasted. He put on sackcloth and ashes, which is a symbol of repentance. Elijah said, “Wah, this man can fast and pray.” Then the word of the Lord came to Elijah, saying (verse 29): “See how Ahab has humbled himself before Me? Because he has humbled himself before Me, I will not bring the calamity in his days. In the days of his son I will bring the calamity on his house.” It was pushed to one more generation. Interesting, isn’t it? The same judgment was pushed back and delayed.
So I’ve shown you Bible incidents. Remember I showed you earlier in Exodus 12 where 400 years became 430 years? But look at this one in 1 Kings 6:1 that we covered this morning: “And it came to pass in the four hundred and eightieth year after the children of Israel had come out of the land of Egypt, in the fourth year of Solomon’s reign over Israel, in the month of Ziv, which is the second month, that he began to build the house of the LORD.” Hey, look, it says 480 years. From the time they came out (very clear, when the Israelites came out of the land of Egypt) to the time of King Solomon was 480 years.
Now, if Exodus 12:40 says 430 years, that only leaves 50 years between the time they came out to the time of King Solomon, which is impossible in the natural. Because you have the time of Joshua, approximately 20 odd years, then you have the time of the Judges which was a long period. And then you have the time of Eli and Samuel − Eli’s was quite long (40 years); Samuel’s was also quite long. That’s a long time. Then you also have the reign of King Saul (40 years) and King David (40 years). Add 4 years of King Solomon (in his 4th year). You say, “Wow, so many years unaccounted for, how to squeeze 50 years inside?” It’s already impossible to be 50, because if King Saul’s is 40 and King David’s is 40, and that make 80. And King Saul and King David lived before King Solomon. So it’s impossible.
How come it’s only 480 years? The Bible cannot be wrong because we believe that the Bible is the Word of God. Well, the Bible did know about these other years.
In Acts 13:20 − “After that, He gave them judges for about four hundred and fifty years, (that means after they entered the promised land, after Joshua died, and we didn’t count Joshua’s time) until Samuel the prophet.” So 450 years up to Samuel the prophet, plus the time of King Saul, that makes 490, plus King David’s 40 years, so that brings you to over 500 years. So the 500 odd years was squashed into 50 years. What’s happening here?
When you put both verses together, you learn something. See, we learn something all the time. God did not count the time of permissive will. That’s when they diverted, once they landed in the land of Canaan and every time they diverted, God did not want to count that. The time of the Judges was not counted. When King Saul reigned, he was only good for 6 years. He actually reigned for 40 years. So from the time they entered the Promised Land to King Solomon’s 4th year was an extra 50 years − 480 minus 430, left 50. Why did God only count 50 years? Take away 4 years because it was the 4th year of King Solomon, so that left 46 years. Out of 46 years, for King David, you can count 40 years. Where were the other 6 years? King Saul’s. For King Saul, God only counted the temporary years that they wanted a king until David could rise up. Six years. Then when King Saul went astray, God didn’t even count his 34 years − completely not counted. And the Judges’ time − completely not counted. So God had His counting system. Time was different in the spiritual world (even though the years and dates were mentioned) from the physical actual time on earth. I mean, you are missing 500 odd years.
You also have verses like in the book of Daniel where sometimes time was wrapped inside time, and that’s even more complex.
In the book of Daniel, Daniel was studying the 70-year prophecy. Daniel 9:2 − “in the first year of his reign I, Daniel, understood by the books the number of the years specified by the word of the LORD through Jeremiah the prophet, that He would accomplish seventy years in the desolations of Jerusalem.” The original prophecy prophesied up to the destruction of some sort of a temple, something like that, not just the restoration, so he was looking at it and it said 70 years. And Daniel lived a long life. So to him, he was a young captive when he was captured in the Babylonian kingdom. To him, 70 years had passed by, he had lived all 70 years in Babylon. In fact, Jeremiah told them: “It’s going to be a long time. It’s going to be 70 years. Live, build a home, marry and have children. Then I will call all of you back.” That’s why Jeremiah was different from all the other prophets. He was really practical. He knew what God revealed.
Do you know in Jeremiah’s time, there were people prophesying that the time they were to be in Babylon was a short time? And they were all the false prophets. Remember Jeremiah made a yoke and put it on his neck, and he was walking around. Then the false prophet came and broke the yoke. Jeremiah said: “So also shall the Lord break the yoke of Babylon.” If they only knew, Babylon was going to be very strong for 70 odd years. I mean, for many, many years, not 70 odd years, because it was Medo-Persian Empire by the time they came back. And Jeremiah was writing letters to the captives, saying: “Stay there, build houses, have a family, get married, enjoy your life, because it will be 70 long years.”
Timing is very important to live this life.
If you are in Babylon and you think it’s 5 years, it might change your perspective. That’s why sometimes we go out on a limb and we stretch out and say: “This is the rough timing.” In some things, God shows the timing. But in terms of timing, put it this way: Because of the spiritual chronology and our physical chronology, plus our own sub-conscience (sometimes we don’t even know ourselves), investment in a prophecy, we cannot pick up any delays. Until it happens, when we say, hey, what’s happening here? And then we pull ourselves out of it and relook at the situation. So that’s our situation in that.
Pastor Aruel has not contacted me since the USA election. I’m sure he is going through these things. And I want to encourage him, that the first thing is, all the visions are still true and are from the Lord, except the application in our time dimension that is there, that we need to become more accurate in its transfer into our time.
Now, I want to read about Daniel and him praying over the 70 years. Then here comes angel Gabriel at the end of Daniel”s fasting. The message of the angel in Daniel 9:22-23 − “… ‘O Daniel, I have now come forth to give you skill to understand. At the beginning of your supplications the command went out, and I have come to tell you…’” Then he says the 70 days are (in verse 24) 70 x 7. Seventy years, each of the year times 7, that makes 490 years. That’s a long, long time! Only God can speak in mysteries like that. Did Jeremiah know that the 70 years was 7 x 7? No. Did Daniel know (up to verse 23) that it was 7 x 7? No. He needed the angel to come and say, “Actually it was 70 x 7.” So some things are like that.
Like I mentioned this morning, if a prophecy is given in part, it’s given in part, but overall, we must be accountable. We must progress and go further.
So let’s now bring the chart on USA prophecy. I’ll show you what has happened. This is our timeline, a thing that does not change. This is the end-time timeline, nothing to do with any country. Remember we gave dates like around 2020, 2021, 2022, and then the exodus date (exodus will have to be before 2026)? And remember we gave the super-growth of the church and what God has prophesied, about how we will do signs and wonders? It’s good that God uses more than one prophet − through Pastor Aruel, we begin to see details of what will happen in the exodus, that the miracles and signs and wonders of Moses will be restored, and all those things which were not seen clearly by the first 7 Thunders prophet. We only know of great signs and wonders. And we also have the names of some of the archangels, like archangel Phanuel is going to come and stand on my right side every time that I minister from 2022 (confirmed) but he can manifest earlier. So this was the original timeline with a lot of other timelines all the way to 2070. We have taught before and it’s all recorded.
Then this was the prophecy on USA particularly. The prophecy on USA was only effective from 2016 to 2027. Remember that? It’s just that short period. There were more revelations in between this sector. It was more to do with the civil war. In the prophecy, it says Martin O’Malley from the Democrat would have won the election. And here’s the thing: Nobody was doing the detailed counting. But in my mind I did ask the question. Because I know that every US President can only do two terms of 4 years, which means that the two terms can only last 8 years. But he must be re-elected also. It doesn’t mean that he might win the next term.
If Martin O’Malley has become President in 2016, he will have one term up to 2020, and then he will have another term up to 2024. I was looking at it. In fact, when the prophecy came, I was looking at it and I asked questions, like: How did he extend the 3 years until USA in 2027 is completely destroyed (in the 7 Thunders prophecy)? Remember the serpent that went to Spain? So it was in the year 2027. So how did he extend these 3 years? Our explanation: How can a person rule 8 years + 3 years which is 11 years? We say “martial law”. We just put the words “martial law”.
But no one did a proper research, and I finally had a look at the proper research. No US President has ever declared an extension of his term without election. Martial law had occurred in the time of President Abraham Lincoln, where there was a civil war. It’s the best comparison. But here’s the thing: In the US laws, the powers are divided between the Legislative, the Executive, and the Judiciary or the Courts. They are all divided, although each influences the other.
If martial law has occurred, this would have become a dictatorship technically because there’s no more election. And that has never happened outside the term of the US President. There are limitations.
Here are some comments of various people on the possibility of martial law in USA and to what extent. It says there are limitations on the martial law and it can be declared by not just the President. Do you realise that? It can be declared by a governor, a mayor, individual generals − they really have spread it out and they have all the various armies.
I’ll read some of the actual occurrences afterwards. Typically it’s very limited in scope and only in the complete breakdown of public order for brief periods. It had been declared by: President Abraham Lincoln during the Civil War, President Ulysses S Grant during the Reconstruction, and President Franklin D Roosevelt during World War II. Each case was limited.
In fact, in President Lincoln’s case (which was a civil war), he suspended the writ of habeas corpus (which is like rights of government over individuals, but only on suspected confederate agents), so he needed extra power. It was later approved by Congress. President Grant declared martial law in response to Ku Klux Klan violence. President Roosevelt declared in Hawaii immediately after Pearl Harbor. If any President was to declare it without just cause, there would be severe consequences under the First Amendment Rights.
Here’s another fact: The US Military does not swear an oath to the President. They swear an oath to uphold the Constitution. That means they can choose to disobey the President. Here’s the other thing: There was a law passed where the Army of USA cannot legally operate within the borders of US. Another comment: The Army took the oath to the Constitution, not to the President and the power is checked at every turn.
So for martial law to operate successfully in an entire country, the President will require the co-operation of Joint Chiefs of Staff all the way down the chain of command. He also will need the co-operation of every governor, every mayor of every metropolitan area, along with all (50 states) national guards, state troopers, police chiefs, sheriffs, all the federal employees, along with a list of a number of state and city employees to pull it off. That’s not an easy feat to pull off. And there have been historical cases of it being declared.
Article 1, Section 9 of the United States Constitution is about the privilege of the writ of habeas corpus. We are not going to read everything. I’ve read the entire Habeas Corpus Suspension Act of 1863 (USA), to research whether it was actually possible to extend the 3 years. I found that it is impossible. Not in our normal situation which I did not research before.
Article 2 of the United States Constitution is about the executive power of the US President. The US President is quite limited in his power and he actually cannot declare martial law and succeed without Congress approving (you can read Article 2 of the US Constitution that limits his power and the limitations to his power even on the declaration of war). It says regardless of the inability to declare war, the President does have the power to unilaterally order military service in the defense of the United States.
So you notice, in the end they’ll have to pass legislation on the declaration of war. It cannot be done by one man. We must not forget, the United States was founded on one of the most widespread democratic principles and distribution of powers. So it’s not easy for the President to become a dictator.
I have also researched President Lincoln’s original proclamation of martial law which he had to do very carefully. You think it’s easy for the President just to declare martial law? This is the United States of America with over 300 million people. Each one of them, in a sense, has the right to own guns, although not every one of them has guns. There are more than 300 million guns distributed in the country and the right to own a gun is in their Constitution and the nation was founded that way.
So we who looked at the prophecy did not know the details. I’m just surprised that no US person has risen up, done this research and told me, “Look, your assumption that the President can just simply declare martial law is that easy? It’s not that easy.” I found that it’s not that easy. And even less easy in President Lincoln’s time, because nowadays you’ve got internet, Wi-Fi, various means of communication not available to ordinary citizens, phones and everything based on satellite system.
I’ll use President Lincoln as a research example, a case study, because he was the one who governed during the Civil War. So he is a good prime example about the power of the President, and even when he declared it, there was opposition. So it’s not so easy for the President to become a dictator, even within his term that means within his normal 4 + 4-year terms. And you are talking about something even greater if you go beyond the 4-year term. No one has done that. Of course, if anything possible come, it must be very disastrous. You can only look at it this way. The disaster must be so great to allow a President to extend 3 years outside his term without election − which we did not look closely at the prophecy and what it meant and entailed.
If the prophecy is fulfilled, this would be required to reach 2027 under Martin O’Malley, if he had come in in 2016 to rule for 11 years.
So in the original declaration by President Lincoln, this was Poclamation 113 declaring martial law, and for him he did it a bit at a time. For him, it was the suspension of the writ of habeas corpus in Kentucky and then it was slowly extended. Even President Lincoln needed Congress behind him to have military law to fight the civil war.
So would Congress give to Martin O’Malley the 3 years’ extension based on whatever happens here? Whatever happens here, is it so horrible that all Congress is one?
Let me read this part about the history of previous military declarations that had taken place. “On September 15, 1863, President Abraham Lincoln imposed Congressionally-authorized martial law…” So he needed Congress behind him. Anyway, that’s one. There are examples of martial law that had been exercised during the history of USA, aside from the Civil War (obvious example is the Civil War).
During the war of 1812, General Andrew Jackson imposed martial law within his encampment at New Orleans, which he had recently liberated. Martial law was also imposed in a four mile radius around the camp. When word came of the end of the war, Jackson maintained martial law, contending that he had not gotten official word of the peace. A judge demanded habeas corpus for a man arrested for sedition. Rather than comply with the writ, Jackson had the judge arrested. After the civil authority was restored, the judge fined Jackson $1,000, which he paid, and for which the Congress later reimbursed Jackson.
In 1892, at Coeur d’Alene, Idaho, rebellious mine workers blew up a mill and shot at strike-breaking workers. The explosion leveled a four-story building and killed one person. Mine owners asked the governor to declare martial law, which he did. At the same time, a request was made for federal troops to back guardsmen. Over 600 people were arrested. The list was whittled down to two dozen ring leaders who were tried in civil court. While in prison, the mine workers formed a new union, the Western Federation of Miners.
In 1914, imposition of martial law climaxed the so-called Coal Field Wars in Colorado. Dating back decades, the conflicts came to a head in Ludlow in 1913. The Colorado National Guard was called in to quell the strikers. For a time, the peace was kept, but it is reported that the make-up of the Guard stationed at the mines began to shift from impartial normal troops to companies of loyal mine guards. Clashes increased and the proclamation of martial law was made by the governor. President Wilson sent in federal troops, eventually ending the violence.
In 1934, California Governor Frank Merriam placed the docks of San Francisco under martial law, citing “riots and tumult” resulting from a dock workers strike. The Governor threatened to place the entire city under martial law. The National Guard was called in to open the docks, and a city-wide institution of martial law was averted when goods began to flow. The guardsmen were empowered to make arrests and to then try detainees or turn them over to the civil courts.
Martial law and San Francisco were no strangers – following the earthquake of 1906, the troops stationed in the Presidio were pressed into service. Guards were posted throughout the city, and all dynamite was confiscated. The dynamite was used to destroy buildings in the path of fires, to prevent the fires from spreading. Troops were ordered to shoot looters. Though there was never an official declaration of martial law, the event is often cited as such. However, at all times it appears the troops took their orders indirectly from the civil authority.
Though not a state at the time, Hawaii was placed under martial law in 1941, following the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. Many of the residents of Hawaii were, and are, of Asian descent, and the loyalty of these people was called into question. After the war, the federal judge for the islands condemned the conduct of martial law, saying, “Gov. Poindexter declared lawfully martial law but the Army went beyond the governor and set up that which was lawful only in conquered enemy territory namely, military government which is not bound by the Constitution. And they … threw the Constitution into the discard and set up a military dictatorship.”
There have been many instances of the use of the military within the borders of the United States, such as during the Whiskey Rebellion and in the South during Reconstruction and then later with the civil rights crises, but these acts are not tantamount to a declaration of martial law. The distinction must be made as clear as that between martial law and military justice: deployment of troops does not necessarily mean that the civil courts cannot function, and that is one of the keys, as the Supreme Court noted, to martial law.
Declaring martial law is already tough in a democratic country and to have the support of all − state governors, military, who actually swear to the Constitution, not to the President − to get them is already tough. On top of that, you put the hurdle that he has to suspend all legal elections and the rights of people. That is something that has never been done in the history of America. No President of the United States has ever done that beyond his term, not even under martial law. Nobody told me that before. So we have added (and of course all things are possible with God) a higher level of almost impossibility. And no one paid attention to that. I didn’t pay attention myself.
The only thing I questioned was: How did he get past the 8 years? That was all and I stopped when I said, “Okay, martial law; ya, okay.” I didn’t bother to dig up on how easy or how hard it was to impose martial law in a democratic country of over 300 million people.
Now that I’ve done my research, I’ll tell you here: In the natural, it is impossible for a President to get beyond his elected term just by pure martial law. You would have immediate riots and you might not even survive 2027. Already to impose martial law is tough, I mean, people who are used to freedom will not like martial law.
So looking at it carefully, this new line that is there, and I’ll talk about side effects afterwards because there’s another thing to consider. But let’s consider the civil war. You know what I’m discussing? Only civil war. Here’s the thing: I went back to look at all the prophecies. The prophecy just said a Democrat and then later on we discerned that it was Martin O’Malley. But Jesus did not actually say it will take place in this coming election or the next election. Because at the time when the revelation of a Democrat and it will still be a Democrat who is as popular as John F Kennedy. The revelation that it was Martin O’Malley was another different revelation. You ask why do I differentiate the revelation? If you don’t mind me, on this point here, flip back to some drawings that I have.
Now, let me draw it in red. I draw it in degrees of authority, being this to be the highest. I realise that, when God speaks or when Aruel has a vision or when I look back into his vision, depending on who speaks is important. So here’s the question: Can God give a revelation that is completely non-negotiable? That means, as it comes, it is dry cement. So at the dry cement level, I will put when it directly comes from God the Father, from Jesus (our Lord Jesus making an appearance), and directly from the Holy Spirit. I would put anything that is directly spoken by God Himself. Some of you might not appreciate it, because some of you say, “God speaks, I don’t know who.” You can’t differentiate between the angels and God, the impression, the gift of prophecy which is a stirring inside you − all these you cannot. But I’m talking about as if you can, because I’m also talking to prophets. (Also, Aruel needs to hear this too, so that he won’t be discouraged to know which level of vision he is having. And this is also for all our benefit, when all of you progress in different visions.) There is a level when it’s actually the Trinity involved, it’s always dry cement. That’s it.
Let me change the colour. Then there are His angels. (I leave the colour for God as bright red.) When angels deliver a word, they are at a lower category of authority from God. The word comes from God − some are dry, some are wet cement. Wet cement means it can still change; dry cement means it cannot change where angels are involved. In the Bible, there were many occasions of God sending His angels to do certain things. Remember the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah? That’s a good example. It was almost changed by one-man’s prayer, correct? Abraham interceded, from 50 righteous to 10. And God was with him while the two angels went to do the work. Abraham was appealing to a higher authority − the authority that dispensed the angels to destroy. So the angels’ work is to come and destroy, to judge Sodom and Gomorrah. One man’s prayer nearly made a difference. He whittled down from 50 to 10. If he whittled down to one, today Sodom and Gomorrah might still exist because there was at least one guy (though not a very good guy) called Lot. But he did not succeed and Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed. But that shows something about the word that comes from the angels. Which is why even in practical application, sometimes when the angels say something, it’s based on their observation.
For example, you all remember very long ago during the first 7 Thunders prophet’s time where he made a statement from the pulpit and I quickly came and corrected him, right? He said that archangel Uriel (at that time known as Shamah) said (because they were in conversation and they were passing by a bread shop) that bread shops will prosper or the bread business will prosper something like that. Do you remember that? He made a statement and I quickly came out and said, “If God never called you into bread business don’t go in. You might not prosper.” Because that’s a statement made by an angel. It is an observation of a created being, no doubt a created being that sees the future.
Now, why do I draw this graph? Because the higher you are (let me draw a different line), the more you can see. So the more you can see, your overall seeing is higher. So God sees everything. Angels might see up to here. Each level sees less and less of the future. And this is how much you see. Okay, this is the extent of what you see. So God can see everything. Angels can see slightly less than God, even if they are perfect. That’s how Satan could rebel because he could not see everything, even though he was one of the highest cherubim, but he thought he knew everything and when he realised that he did not, that was it.
So the word of God − some are dry, some are wet. Because sometimes when the angels deliver something, and God does differentiate different angels. Remember there was one particular angel (and that is actually archangel Uriel) that God said, “Watch out for this angel that I sent in your midst. Don’t do anything wrong because he will not have mercy, he will just kill you on the spot.”? Of course, that is in Old Testament time. In New Testament time, we have the grace of God, it’s slightly different. But it was in Old Testament time, God was warning the Israelite people about how dangerous it was to transgress against God. And not every angel, but He said “I am sending this angel.” Sometimes angels with greater authority come. The greater the authority, the drier the cement. The lesser the authority, the wetter the cement. That means there are some things that are not fully dry yet.
Then on top of that, you have the apostolic or the prophetic voice (where I’ve already shown you). Elijah prophesied, whether he received it from God or through an intermediary (angel), it still can change on the spot. Jonah was a prophet, but the prophecy he said that in 40 days Nineveh would be destroyed had been changed. The question is: Did he know of the change or not? Elijah was sensitive enough to God to know all the changes. There were many things in the Bible that were changed on the spot. The exodus to the Promised Land was delayed by 40 years because they did not follow the Lord. Sometimes the angel takes proactive action to prevent anything from diverting, like Archangel Gabriel shutting Zechariah’s mouth, so that he could not talk for 9 months. You say, “Why wouldn’t He let him talk because after that I’m sure he would believe?” Because the words spoken by Zechariah might change something that He did not want to change, that might affect John the Baptist that might affect the situation.
Let’s assume the other side. We only read one story. Zechariah’s mouth got zipped. At the end of 9 months he really believed and when they asked “What’s his name?”, to everybody’s surprise, he wrote “John”. You know, none of his ancestors was named that, because they renamed down the line. He had fully believed after 9 months of silence.
But what would have happened if Zechariah could talk? We never knew the story. Surely there must be a possibility, otherwise, why, you think for no good reason, Archangel Gabriel just shut Zechariah’s mouth up for 9 months.
Angels are not like humans. There must be something that he was trying to prevent, right? Something significant that God gave him the authority to prevent. The only thing: we never saw what was prevented. But I can tell you, if it’s serious enough to keep a man silent for 9 months, it’s very serious! We never knew the story but it tells us that it could have affected the prophetic wordin some way that we cannot dream or understand.
So with prophets that function in office, I would say (let me use a different colour) − sometimes it’s dry, sometimes it’s wet. Then with the gift of prophecy (which is at a lower end), if you are not in the office of a prophet, if it’s of your intermediary (everything is still of the Holy Spirit of course) − different level or degrees. Remember you see less and less things? Most of it is wet and then in time it becomes dry. So if it’s of somebody with the gift of prophecy, with tongues and interpretation of tongues − it’s usually wet cement and through time becomes dry.
So if you have a prophecy, like tongues and interpretation of tongues, for example, let’s pick anyone, let’s say you since you are sitting in front, I will do it for you: [Pastor speaks in tongues and interprets]: “The Lord Your God (again, the Lord’s name might be used because everything is from the Lord) loves you, establishes you and your whole family, and the Lord has heard your cries and seen the times that you have travailed, and the Lord has sent His angels to all in your family to draw them in to become a part of this move.” That’s the word that came through tongues and interpretation of tongues. Now, is that wet cement or dry cement? That’s wet cement, but as she takes the prophetic word, believes in it, prays it through, in times it becomes dry cement.
You see, the gift of prophecy and the actual prophecy that comes forth − two different things, two different levels that function. Again, the function is dependent on (in the first service message) receiving a revelation, interpreting it and applying it.
For example, this morning I gave the story of Brexit. Brexit can be looked at in different ways. Because when you look at a prophecy, you need to interpret it. You look at something fully.
And then, because I come from the area of wisdom and the study of the Word (that’s my background), like, if you look at some of the preaching this morning and all that, all right, I bring you something. People will say, “Wah, everything has a Bible verse.” Of course, because we are walking Bibles, right? In everything, we look back to the Bible. The Bible is our basis for everything. When we have to go through hard times, we have the Bible with us. When we want to rejoice in good times, we also have the Bible with us because we know we must not cross the line. We go back to the Bible for more understanding and clarity.
You never saw me using verses, like I use today, they are from your Bible, joining verses from Genesis 15 with Exodus 12 with Acts 13 to show forth that the Bible views spiritual time and chronological time differently. We don’t have opportunities to teach those things. So it’s a good time to analyse where we went wrong in applying the time. That is important for us. And we will talk about in conclusion on how we move forward now, as we go into those areas. But it’s important for us to know, to learn, to progress at whatever stage. So we always go back to the Bible because the Bible is our basis.
And so talking about Brexit − why do we go to the Bible? From my study of the Bible, I know that UK has to be part of the 10 horns, cannot be separated, based on Daniel 7. Anyone wants to challenge me on that? You can’t, because the Bible predicts it is part of the 10 horns. It will function as the 10 horns. And the little horn that came attacked it because it was part of the 10 horns. From Bible knowledge and Bible study…you can cross reference at least to 50 verses, all the way from Revelation to the 10 toes. You know, the 10 toes are 10 toes. The spirit of wisdom reigns above that. And remember; by wisdom you can even discern the Antichrist, the number 666? It didn’t say prophets. It says he that has wisdom, implying the wisdom of God.
So how does wisdom come? The Word of God. Didn’t the Bible says in Psalm 19, right, the Word of God makes us wise; the Word of God gives us wisdom? So I study the Word of God.
So from the book of Daniel. Also from the fact that we have prophecies of the war that was there and UK was one of the 10 tigers. It’s not like, you know, a leopard comes in and separately joins in the fight. It’s one of the same. That means the original first 7 Thunders prophet’s prophecy of where UK stands. It’s very obvious and it’s also part of the prophecy received. You see, sometimes a prophecy needs to be looked at together, otherwise it looks contradictory. And so based on the 7 Thunders prophecy, UK will always be part of the 10 horns and 10 toes.
Thirdly, this is my personal vision: I saw the archangel of Europe (he is based in Berlin) and the archangel of United Kingdom, and they are still facing each other. On the day before Brexit occurs, we happened to be there (UK). And on that day itself and the next day when it happened, it was like spiritually the Lord asked me to do something, like tie a stronger band between the 2 archangels. And now when I look at it, it’s still there, which means: that is the vision, that is the word, right? That is all the revelation.
Now, the interpretation. We can make mistakes in the interpretation. But the original download is still the original download. I always like to give people everything, so they know which part is the vision, which part is the interpretation. My interpretation is UK will never succeed. Even if it succeeds, something will happen to push it back. But most likely, something or a turn of events will come and if it tries to pull out, it will be prevented. Like at all fronts, it is prevented from going in that direction because if the Archangel of UK says no, it will be a no. And he is not one of those electors with the ballot. He is assigned by God to allow or to disallow.
On top of that, when I was talking about that this morning, I had another little flash vison. See, these are visions. So the vision was: I saw the UK currency come down and then after some time it ceased to exist; it got absorbed and only European currency. So something must be happening that will cause the UK currency to totally disappear. Of course, we know by 2029 it will have completely disappeared. But this is so far interpretation. From my looking at it, it looks like even before 2029, before the tsunami. I’ve got to look further, because we only received in part, to discern the time. Because when you know something is happening, it’s still not so helpful. The timing is the part that helps us. So you know why now there’s a greater effort to apply and look at time.
I give you an example of how it’s going to take time. And it depends on how cautious we are. I am a very cautious person when it comes to these things. And then as we exercise caution, then we’ll realise. Sometimes I might be new in something. For example, it’s the first time I am dealing with so much downloads from Aruel and then I let everything pass through. I say, “That’s good; ya, it’s true.” I know that it’s true, all the downloads are true. So the only thing now we will be more stringent in is passing on the timing. The timing of the 3 miracles, remember?
So let me draw a graph of expectancy. Let’s be realistic. When we analyse, we analyse everything so that we can go forward.
So your question is: How are we going forward? What did we learn? Did we learn from the mistakes?
You see, wise people learn from their mistakes. Fools keep repeating their mistakes. You never make a mistake twice. Then you learn. I can assure you, after this incident, you know, it’s different. In the same way, you can make mistakes because you are sincere, you love the Lord, and you are growing. But never make the mistake twice. It means you didn’t learn.
So, here’s the curve and expectation. Let me look at the graph. In our original plan, we were all riding nicely on this end time revival and we were waiting for 2020 and somewhere 2022 when roughly the exodus comes (and this is before Pastor Aruel came in and began to take on the role of 7 Thunders prophet), to 2027, and then there’s a big 2029 thing. And, you know, we’ve got more dates up there. We are just growing, altar building, going round and doing things, all these things, you know, and everybody is just going in and chugging along. Nobody is in a hurry. Nobody is trying to move things too fast. Then for myself, I say, very good, I’m taking my time in all those things. Not to say that there’s no work, but we are happy.
Then there were these, like some things were brought early and then the curve becomes like that, where, although this is 2020 and all these things are there, but this is 2016. We say, wow, we’ve got 3 miracles; we’ve got these other prophecies and all these things; we’ve got the outpouring and all those things. Then when we’ve got the outpouring, we realised that it was the first-part outpouring. And then there were other prophecies about the 2 queens and all those things. So this is a new line that was drawn. Let’s say we are on the ground here, it looks like it’s coming in faster.
Now, when that didn’t come to pass, there was some disappointment. You can’t say there’s none. Now, you’ve got this thing that you’ve got to deal with. I don’t deal with just these dots. For me, I look at the entire thing. You say, “How fast should we push it back to the original time scale?” But we have derived benefits out of many things, some of these new things that have come, more detailed, more clarity. But when I started looking, I said, “How did we miss the timing on the 3 miracles? How did we miss the timing on the 2 queens?” I’m already asking those questions but I put them in what I call my research book.
Here’s the thing: When I analysed the prophecy of the 3 miracles, when it was first given, it was based on only one condition, the condition that I have been willing to go to US. Therefore God was blessing the 3 miracles to Singapore. So US and Singapore. Later on in the year (last year) when it didn’t come to pass, there was additional information that I did not know and it was based on some sort of transfiguration thing that was to take place. Now, the original prophecy did not cover that.
So straightaway all my cautions go up. I have to take all revelations on this now as in part. That’s how we progress. That it’s only given in part, and some parts are not given, and that God has brought forward something, until and unless I am satisfied (because I always took the part as the whole), that there was only one condition to the 3 miracles − that I was willing to go to US (which is a big thing already) − and everything else was by the grace of God.
Now, we indeed did have the presence of God, we indeed did have all the blessings, which show that the original visions are still true. But it shows another factor. People are also not ready for this time scale. Because in the miracle service, everyone was looking at us and nobody was going out. There were good intercessors praying, but nobody was going out to reach out to the really sick people. And people are still looking for signs and wonders when they should be the ones going out to bring in people. Because if you don’t have faith to bring in people, the atmosphere won’t have faith. It’s part of the faith. Some of the people did have faith. But when some people brought some of the sick, as a whole, our faith level was still not reaching that place. It was definitely not reaching. We have reached a very high level; it did change us, but not high level enough, because energy is energy. When God releases the energy, it’s there. That’s why I took it very simply. I said, “If God wants to do this, that was the only condition, if it takes only 15 minutes to worship, 15 minutes to preach, and then the rest of the service we pray for the sick, the miracle should still come.” Because it’s not based on works, it’s based on God’s promise to do something. God said that the angels would be present and they were.
Then when I realised that there was a condition, I said, “Oh, we should worship longer.” I said, “Okay, these are all new things.” You keep changing and adding. When new revelation keeps changing and adding, I look at the whole thing. Then I have to conclude that this is how we move forward. All this is still in part. So it’s still in the Bible, like a prophecy that is still in part.
The second thing, which is in my earlier chart: What comes from the Trinity and Jesus, and what comes from the normal visions or angels − are different levels, which is that part of the chart. The previous chart, here. Then in just visions, whether it is prophets, visions or dreams. Of course dreams are lower, even in quality, except the part of dreams like Daniel’s, visions are all wet cement. They are only possibilities. They may become dry. So that is where, like (Pastor Aruel, I’m sure he is learning through this experience), that when Jesus appears and says to you something, it still needs interpretation. But it is more dry cement.
The only problem we have is, like when Jesus said 3 days, we have to interpret what it means on the chronological side. Remember the difference in spiritual timing and natural timing? But when without seeing Jesus, and then visions appear, for example, in Martin O’Malley’s case and when Hilary Clinton got the nomination, straightaway it was slowly moving away from the vision, right? Then other things came − there were visions of indictment, and visions of Bernie Sanders falling down and having a stroke or something. Those are just visions. Remember, those are just visions. Although they are real visions, there are different categories from when Jesus first sat down and talked about the civil war and then said that it would be a Democrat that would be ruling and that there would be a civil war and this Democrat would be as popular as J F Kennedy. It is a different category. We must now draw a different category. When Jesus said − it is category 1. Then when it’s not happening and we are just seeing visions, these are all possibilities, a lower category − this is 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. It’s category 5, with 1 being the highest. Of course, it’s opposite from DEFCON − 1 is the highest and 5 is the lowest.
Then dreams are to, like, shake us, remind us of things that we are not seeing and the dreams are to get us back, to try to get our emotions and our minds free from ourselves, so that we can hear clearly without the dreams. And so, that’s the second area because this whole diagram represents the second point, that there are degrees of dry and wet cement. That means they come from different degrees of authority that are there.
Then the question you asked: How do I improve my application in timing? Because for us timing is everything.
I found something. The ability to look into the spiritual world. That means when the spiritual world intersects with the natural world, it has more activities. It’s telling you that it’s like a pregnant woman, when the water bag bursts, then you know it’s close to delivery of the baby. In fact, she has to quickly go to the hospital when the water bag bursts. But before the water bag bursts, it’s the size. But now size is also not accurate. Some women are very slim, 9 months pregnant also look slim, you are surprised: Are they pregnant in the first place? So size is also dependent on the individual. And some babies are huge and some are tiny. So it also depends but that makes it very subjective. But it’s still important. To look at the physical and the spiritual activity that tells you that something is close at hand to the spiritual timing.
So we’ll improve on those 3 things.
Now, I’m going to draw a little chart that will help us. Before you all ask your questions, I need to talk about the changes that are there. This is a new line where the Democrat is supposedly coming in here (now 2020), here you have the Republican (2016 to 2020). Don’t forget that this timeline is the original and this is the part. We are talking only about the civil war. This new timeline helps in that for this extension of 3 years is not so much of a problem anymore. That means whoever is the President in 2020 can easily stretch it to 2027, because 2027 is still within the second 4 years of 2028. So that is not that impossible. What I would say, after my research, it’s an impossible factor on the human’s side. Of course, all things are possible with God but we need to consider.
For example, if God just suddenly gives one of you a vision and He shows you that in one week you will be in another country and you are a citizen, I would say that’s impossible because most countries need a period of time to be a permanent resident before you are a citizen. But all things are possible with God. You know what I mean? That something must change and go beyond human laws, right? How can you be a citizen of another country in one week? We humans use the word “impossible” based on natural and country laws. In most countries, even Australia, you might need 2 years now or 3 years. For Canada, it’s 3 years as a permanent resident before you can apply for citizenship. So something must be violated.
And that was what was being violated that we did not see because no one did this research that was necessary: How easy is it to be a dictator without being elected?
In US laws, that’s impossible. You have to be actually serving as a President before you can declare martial law. So that brings us to that line. But then, not only are we dealing with civil war, we will do with several lines, how the lines have changed. Then you can ask your questions.
Let me draw this original line, so the line is 2016 here. To make it easy, I just put 16, 20 and 24, here is 28, and here is the line of 2027. Then we have the changes in the line, the changes that have taken place in this line are there. We know that around 2021 / 2022 is the civil war that leads to destruction, all the way to 2027. So based on Line No 1 (the civil war line) − How will it affect? In the original case, the civil war only occurs after 2021 / 2022. Then you have the civil war that leads to different things that take place. Let me draw the original points, so we know the original points are still there. There is a factor. (I’m applying the spirit of wisdom besides prophetic studies.) A factor that whatever is determined on this civil war line (let’s say, I call it “X” amount of suffering and rebellion) that is there, whatever degree because God contains all things. God contains all evil, God contains all rebellions.
Remember how God contained (again I’ve got to teach a bit of the Bible) sin? How much sin does God allow? There’s a limit before God steps in. Noah’s flood tells us there’s a limit. Sodom and Gomorrah tells us there’s a limit. The prophecy against Nineveh tells us there’s a limit. Prophecies against Israel and Israel being scattered, also God could tolerate them to a limit. Right? Then when they reached a non-tolerance level, judgment fell.
So there is an “X” limit to what God allows of anarchy and rebellion in any isolated place. Here we isolate it to the civil war.
Then you have another line and this line is a line that talks about the 7 + 7 years. These 2 lines are affecting each other. As you know, we are in the years of prosperity up to 2020, and 2020 to 2027 are the recession years. So here’s the prosperity, right? Approximately plus and minus 2020, that is there. All those things are now affected which we cannot see clearly, because we see very clearly this is going to happen and this is going to happen and all those things. But there are going to be some things that changed.
One of the first major changes − (let me bring back the colour) part of this is taken and it is put into this dimension of unrest. I don’t know the percentage but I know there is. My proportion might be wrong, but that’s the first change that has taken place.
Now, you might ask the question: Originally could it have been that Donald Trump could have been elected, like Martin O’Malley? I would say it was always a wet cement possibility. Because there were visions that were seen of him debating with Donald Trump which can still take place in the next one. Because if you have Donald Trump and you have him, you still can have the debate going on. You see, it includes every vision.
I’ve done this to include every vision that Aruel has seen as accurate, no question about that. And then drawing down the different lines of whether it was received by a vision or the Lord Jesus spoke or an angel spoke, then we mark it out to different levels. But from what I see (and Aruel and I have not communicated since, I’m sure we are going to communicate after this), that part of this has been brought to here, which is why you are already having many protests and riots happening. Part of it is brought, which means that this is actually lessened during this period. And for it to lessen, if the year 2024 is a re-election, there must be a normal election going on. This is based on wisdom, a flow of logic: 1 + 1 = 2, 2 + 2 = 4, based on a base of 10. For this election to go on as normally as possible, it would mean that this is more occurring here than occurring here. That’s some of the changes for that to happen.
Second thing: Will the prosperity period still be here and here? Because of the effect of this blue line, a lot of the prosperity is still here, but because of this line here, you will have prosperity in this format, which means you still have the 7 + 7 years generally, but it will be some dips occurring. Then in the recession years, you will have some ups, some ups, until the last stage when once the civil war hits in fullness, it could be during or after the 2024 election, it goes all the way down and never up again. That’s the major change that’s going to affect all our lives. So that’s the major 2 lines − the civil war line has been slightly affected, and the prosperity and recession line (whatever dips that are here are compensated by here). Some sorts of things have changed, although generally there’s this 7 + 7 years.
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